One Night: Nxivm lawyers will get paid one way or another

By One Night in Bangkok

This whole topic of the “Legal Trust” running dry, while certainly interesting and worthy of Frank’s commentary, is mostly just a NOTHING BURGER that won’t impact any of the main lawyers.

Nobody’s gonna have to take a pay cut.

Firstly, Clare does NOT have every penny of her estate inside a “trust” that bars her from spending it on legal fees. She only has $100 million in such a trust.

Clare has other assets that can be used to easily borrow $15 million cash if need be. Even using her own statements made to the court, her total net worth is over $200 million, not $100 million.

Even if the judge ‘bans’ Clare from using her own money to refill the trust’s coffers once it runs dry, there’s no law against a third party (like Sara Bronfman-Igtet from Europe) creating a new “irrevocable” trust to pay these same lawyers in the future.

Even if the judge were to legally “ban” Sara Bronfman from paying any lawyers (which I don’t think he can since she’s not a defendant), she could simply find another third party to create an irrevocable trust using funds which she could give him or her.

If not Sara, then some other person from outside the US could create a trust to reimburse these lawyers.

In fact, they don’t even need to officially create another “trust” to pay anybody. A wealthy NXIVM benefactor could simply whisper a private “verbal guarantee” that they’ll reimburse all legal expenses AFTER the trial is over.

I suppose the judge could require any such private whispers to be made known to him, but I don’t see how he can enforce that.

Kinda like the Cuban Missile Crisis, where Kennedy whispered a private promise to get rid of the missiles in Turkey six months after the crisis is over. LOL.

These lawyers are likely getting paid one way or another, in my opinion.

If not now, then certainly after the trial is over.

NXIVM personnel trust their benefactors to stand by them.


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  • Yesterday I swear I read a comment on this thread made by “Smith” that made some sense of, mitigated, this Bang Cocky blather. What happened to Smith’s comment?

    Bangkok, here in the United States attorneys are expected to represent their clients interests not the interests of whomever is paying them.

    Your reassurances here to (other) defense counsel — some of whom already appear to be acting against the interests of their clients in favor of protecting the “payers” — that they will be fully paid by secret sources nonetheless related to Clare Bronfman is highly circumspect and reinforces concerns already raised by the Court over these conflict of interest issues.

  • I agree that the money can be gotten from or funneled through an uninvolved third party. I think the Judge is just trying to assure that the other Defendants receive unbiased representation. The idea of one Defendant funding a co-Defendant’s defense, when they are likely to be adverse to each other as opposed to aligned, is problematic.

    I, for one, what them all to have the BEST representation, and still go down in flames. I really do hope one or more makes a deal and turns against the others – we would get some very interesting testimony.

    A side question – could fear of the Mexican power brokers involved be discouraging them from turning?

    • “Fear” is a key control tool of this pyramid crime syndicate, true Orange.

      While the DOS slaves endured the raw, searing pain of their branding, they were shouted at to “think of your master, think of your master!” — to associate that intense pain with the power their “master” wields over them to induce it again should they disobey, IMO.

      I expect that fear association would then, as designed, travel “up line” to the masters above the masters no matter who they are.

      I agree the fact that those ultimate masters hail from some of the most reputedly powerful and cutthroat criminal families in modern history, worldwide, the Bronfman’s and Salinas’, must be terrifying to many.

  • If my name were Salinas and my family had billions of dollars in assets, the best way to avoid indictment is to help the American NXIVM defendants to win.

      • Not only do I agree with Scott, but I think that’s what’s going down. “Keep Carlos- errrr the Mexicans out of this and Vanguard is yours.” A deal has been made. Everyone wins. Except for Keith.

        • For once Scooter may be correct. Obviously the Trump DOJ had an agreement to bring Raniere back to the US to begin with. So some higher ups in Mexico were more than willing to cooperate. However, as the extent of human trafficking is realized, all bets are off.

      • Including Keith’s family and co-defendants – the only people on the planet opposed to Keith getting dealt the “taking the fall” hand (he so carefully fixed for others) – could be single digits.

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